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BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE "SUPERMAN" SPECIAL
EDITION
The Michael Thau Interview
By hiphats@aol.com
Certainly
a lot of work has to be done in restoring a cult classic, and "Superman" represents
one of those cult classics. And now, 23 years after its original theatrical release,
it is coming back better than it has ever looked or sounded, better than in previous
theatrical releases, and even better than on TV or video. [ Go back to the main page...]
For the new Special Edition, a crew headed by producer/film editor Michael
Thau spent over a year renovating
Richard Donner's 1978 epic blockbuster. And truly this new 151-minute version will no
doubt satisfy "Superman" fans all over the world who have helped campaign so hard for such
a re-release.
I had the opportunity to talk via phone with Michael Thau the day after the press screening
in San Antonio, Texas. This interview reveals just some of the amazing feats that were
made in preparing the re-issue, and a lot of secrets unveiled.
SWC: What was the most difficult part of the "Superman"
restoration?
Michael Thau: I think finding all the elements.
SWC: With all the hype on the "Superman" DVD, what materials are going to catch people by
surprise?
MT: I think first of all, the amount of new material that is on the DVD the sheer
amount of it and the quality of it as well too...an hour and a half of brand-new
documentaries made with behind the scenes footage that no one has ever seen before.
And new interviews with almost everyone...the only old interview that we had to use for the
documentary was Marlon Brando. The screen tests are amazing...and I think just the quality
of the DVD as well too, not only the transfer and the new sound but the quality of all those
special features.
SWC: What input did you have with Richard Donner on the selection of the
extended scenes in the film? I understand 45 minutes was added to the longest known version
of the film which was put together by Alexander Salkind for TV stations around the world,
and this new cut has about 8 minutes added back. What was the factor in that?
MT: That's a very good question. "Superman" has a very strange history because of the
financial deals that were made and put in place to get money. Back when the Salkinds were
selling features to television, they paid by the minute, and television stations
and networks were
paid by the minute. So, I guess it was Alexander Salkind or someone in his organization
decided to throw every bit of footage that was shot into a cut to sell to syndicated
markets around the world. Most films that are shot have lots of extra material that
people don't see because it's deemed not right for the story or it's poorly shot and in the
case of "Superman" on a lot of things that were in those longer cuts were never intended for
anyone to see. There were maybe experiments or shot by some second or third or eighth unit
director who might have been a stuntman or something like that...and you can see in a
lot of the extended versions that there's just tremendous amount of just bad footage and
normally a director in a studio would never have shown anyone that footage...the editor
would have seen it, put it on a shelf, told the director it looks bad, maybe showed it to
him, and they would have decided instantly that they would never even put it in a cut of the
film, but unfortunately with "Superman"...the director was pushed off the project as soon
as the feature was finished, and never talked to about making any of these long extended cuts,
and a lot of footage put in it that just very embarrassing...or sometimes they made up
sequences out of shots that really didn't exist and maybe shot one additional shot, to add
back into it. For instance, there's a scene of a Sentry that talks to the council of Elders,
and they send him to go find out why Jor-El's Quarters is using too much energy. There was a
really amatuerly put together sequence that kind of intercuts with Jor-El's quarters as
Jor-El is making preparations, saying goodbye to the baby, etc. etc., wide shots is just
more destruction of Krypton, and then really tight shots of a guy in a mask with some
lighting effect on the mask..it's just like his eyes...a little bit piece of a mask
and they put lighting effects on the mask...that sequence...it's like that's amateur,
you know, and even kids going to first-year college film schools don't do--teach like
that...and whoever put that sequence together, they were just doing it to...expand another
30 seconds out of the feature...of course, it was nothing that Dick ever shot, it looks
horrible, it looks stupid. And of course, the climax of that sequence with him getting
killed, is his eyes go "bug up", open...you never see anything of how he's traveling,
or any ships that he's flying around, it's just a totally cheated, made-up sequence.
And, a lot of the other sequences that were made much longer to get the running time up, were
well shot, but are just padded out scenes. Like for instance, right now there's around
three or four cuts in the film of the teenagers that leave Smallville High School in a
car driving down roads listening to rock and roll music, and then eventually they come across
Clark in front of his house in the while that he got there so fast. In some of these other
cuts, there's about ten or fifteen shots of the car driving by, with different rock and
roll songs on the radio...well, you get it, the kids are driving listening to rock and
roll music and there's no scenes or interaction with the kids or anything important
the kids are doing, just more and more shots of them, it's just total padding. If the
movie had been presented that way originally in its theatrical release, it would have been
much slower than it is, no one would have liked it...it's only because of Donner's and
Stuart Baird's "fast pacing" of the picture that keeps it moving along the whole time, you
stand out these scenes and you just got a long "blah" picture. So, the scenes that Donner
decided to put back in the picture were ones that he always loved, but were pretty much
forced to cut because the film was really long to begin with anyway, even at it's original
length it was 2:20. But now, you've had a chance to put it back in and everyone can kind of
understand why it's a little bit longer now.
SWC: How much new music will be put into this new cut of "Superman"?
MT: If you had seen those scenes that you know are in the film again,
the music that you are familiar with those scenes in whatever television cut or whatever,
that's the music we used...the music that is in
these additional scenes were there when John Williams recorded his score...he recorded his
score to a much longer version of the picture than the theatrical release. And so, we just
used the music as was recorded to these longer scenes. We also have on the DVD 10
stand-alone music cuts in 5.1, where we found a cue that was much longer but they
had cut down the sequences and forced the music editor to cut down the music...you will
find those longer versions of those cues on the DVD in 5.1.
SWC: Will the music cues be played against the scenes in the film or will they just
be by themselves?
MT: No, they will be music by themselves. There's like alternate main titles...
there's another song that is kind of a really funny jazzy version of "Can You Read My Mind",
where the music behind her voice is drums and keyboards and sleazy guitar, sleaszy lounge
act, it's very funny. So there's a couple of those things...
SWC: What about the remastering of the film's legendary score?
MT: We found in the inventory in England (before I went over to England)
a item that said "Miscellanous One-inch Masters", and I had them sent out from
England over to Los Angeles,
quickly, so we could take a look at that, cause we were wondering why it was listed that
way...and in the box what we found was 1-inch tapes that had John Williams' original
mix-downs of the whole score..and these mix-downs were mix-down--they would bring in
the orchestra and record it to 24-track, and then a week later or two weeks later they
would go to a mixing studio and mix these tracks down,
and instead of mixing them down to just a left track and a right track, key mixed this
music down to six separate tracks. I think two sets of left, center, right. What that
allowed us to do when we were remixing the picture is to actually ahve a true 5.1 spread
on the music. So you will hear from the left surround speaker different instrumentation
that from the left front speaker from the center speaker, from the right speaker, and
the right rear speaker, diffferent instrumentation during parts of different cues
which allows us to surround you and the music, and not have to synthsyze the 5.1 from
just the left track and the right track and the whole music score. And it was in pristine
condition, much more vibrant than the Rhino CD source materials..."
SWC: How do you think fans will compare the new SE with the theatrical version or
any extended version?
MT: It's unfortunate that people have seen a lot of this junk footage on these other
versions,
but I think that they're going to really like this version bcasue it has a lot more Marlon
Brando in it...it has some cute, fun little moments here and there that have been spread out,
and it has of course the fire and ice sequence which is really cool action..I guess it was
deemed at the last second to be a little redundant when it first came out..I think it was
one of the last cuts that did come out of the film right before the '78 release...so these are
things that I think people will enjoy and and like to see. I haven't seen many complaints
about the scenes that were put in, very few people have complained that not all the stuff
that they had seen in these other versions are in.
SWC: With the impending success of the "Superman" SE, what would be the next film you
would restore?
MT: Someone has to give me the money to do it...but I think if this film does well,
then maybe more of the work will become available.
SUPERMAN Web Central wishes to thank
Michael Thau for taking the time to talk with us, and for allowing this interview to be
presented on our pages. We wish Thau the best of luck in all his endevours.